Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby FergusonTO35 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:01 am

I don't think so, as the .25 NAA uses the .32 Auto as the parent case. I was talking about creating a .25 Auto +P using the same case but at higher pressure. I believe Ranch Dog has some higher pressure lead bullet data on his site.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby Flowmaster » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:20 pm

I'd be OK with a longer shell casing 25acp, possibly calling it a 25 magnum. There's no real reason for such a cartridge considering 22 magnum exists. The only beneficial part about a 25 magnum would be that its reloadable.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby jasonsch » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:01 am

Seems like the .22 and .25 controversy gets thrown around a lot and the .32 seems to get tossed in too. I carry a JA-25. Sometimes people laugh and roll their eyes when I tell them that. As if I had to actually shoot someone with the .25 acp, It would just be a waste of ammo - because apparently its such a weak worthless round, the bullets would just bounce off. Better off to just "throw the gun at them" than shoot it, one person told me.
Well, IMHO I think people just like to talk about the different cartridges and the capabilities of each. I know I do!! And everyone seems to have a favorite. A lot of people have been killed with a .22LR, and a .25 is a little more powerful. I wouldn't want to be shot with either caliber!! And I like my little JA-25 - It is very easy to conceal and I have a blast taking it to the range once in a while. Would a .380 or a 9mm be better?? Probably, but the JA-380 is a larger pistol. The Kel-tec is a good option too as is the NAA Gardian. But I scored my JA-25 for cheap... at least half if not a third of the price of the others.
And I guess I enjoy being able to do somethings on the cheap and getting away with it... :D And, I just like the Jimenez pistols - maybe it's a character flaw!! :D And with the few "doubters" of the .25 acp I've talked to - None have volunteered so we could test the "Bouncing Bullet" theory!!
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby FergusonTO35 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:31 am

Nothin' wrong with that. Remember, most confrontations end without a shot fired.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby Kiln » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Well despite all the caliber guys waving their gelatin tests around, .25acp was one of the most used calibers in homicides back in their heyday. They must work well enough.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby adam01364 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:02 am

lost californian wrote:The frames are slightly different, too. You can't really just match a .22 slide to a .25 frame, or vice versa. There is extra pieces on the .25.

I own a HP22 and a HP25 and just recently picked up another frame on Gunbroker; the frame was marked HP22/HP25. I wasn't sure which caliber the gun was built for, so I pulled my slides and barrels off, and to my surprise I was able to put both HP22 and HP25 slides and barrels on it. :?:
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby lost californian » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:30 am

Well, whaddaya know. Ain't that weird? Just goes to show....read it on the web, it must be true! :lol:

i got out of the .25acp, just couldn't support all the different calibers. Still really like the Phoenix guns tho.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby adam01364 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:34 pm

And BTW my HP25 will not accept the barrel off my HP22. The HP25 has a screw in the frame that interferes with installation of the .22 cal barrel.
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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby adam01364 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:59 am

I've come to the conclusion that my parts gun was originally an HP22 since it is missing the interference screw. Here's a pic of my three Phoenix pistols. Top is the HP25 with the somewhat rare range barrel, center is my HP22 with the range barrel, and at the bottom is my latest acquisition with the .22LR range barrel and the .25ACP 3" barrel and slide. This latest acquisition has a lot of rough edges - which suits me just fine 8-)

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Re: Difference Between hp22a and hp25a

Postby adam01364 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:26 pm

adam01364 wrote: My latest acquisition with has a lot of rough edges - which suits me just fine
Got it out to the range today after work and the gun functions perfectly. Its been a while since I took an HP22 out to play; I'd forgotten how nicely they shoot! :D This one's going to be making a lot of return trips to the range this summer.
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