Classic Arms -- HP22

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Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby farmkid » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:26 pm

Classic Arms has a very reasonable deal (note that I didn't say 'great') offer on black or nickel HP22s for 119.99:

http://www.classicfirearms.com/phoenix- ... 2014-08-25

With shipping and FFL it may not be worth it unless you're in a Phoenix-less area. But these are very nice little guns.

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12/31/2014 update:
https://www.classicfirearms.com/catalog ... &q=phoenix

They're back at the same price ($119.95) AND THIS TIME WITH FREE SHIPPING. Naturally, if you can get one locally you can do better. But if your only source is to order one and have it shipped, you may not find a better deal.
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Re: Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby Kiln » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:00 am

They go for about $125-135 here new. I may buy another very soon because I took my HP22 to the range yesterday and it was great. Waaaaaaaay more reliable than my J22 and the recoil was much lower because of the size/weight.
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Re: Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby Flowmaster » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:59 am

That company has really stepped up their game in terms of website design since they changed hands a few years ago. I remember when their old website was all just on one page and you had to scroll through eternity to find what you were looking for. That was so 1998 of them, but I guess it worked for a while.

Kentucky Gun Co has them for $125. The weird part is that this one doesn't say free shipping like many of the guns offered on their website. If its $125 including shipping, that's not too bad of a price. http://www.kygunco.com/phoenix-hp-22a-2 ... lack-35828

Bud's Gun Shop has them for $129 with free shipping. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... lack+Grips They have them in the silver color too, same price.

Wholesale Hunter has a good price at $121.80, but that doesn't include shipping. http://www.wholesalehunter.com/product. ... d=11045931 I plugged in my zip code just because I was curious and the cheapest option they quote is $40.20 for "UPS 2nd day air" and other shipping options being more expensive than that. Weird, because FFLs can send to other FFLs really cheap.
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Re: Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby FergusonTO35 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:09 am

There are alot of dealers that don't believe they can ship handguns in the mail. One shop I used to deal with in Winchester was firmly convinced of this, they would get all antsy about even receiving one from another dealer.
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Re: Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby Flowmaster » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:37 pm

What really blows me away is how much FFLs don't know about their own business. They're given a phone book sized manual and left to do their own thing. There's no training here in Virginia. If you get your federal license, best of luck to you, go out there and generate some tax dollars. I've seen FFLs do stuff they really shouldn't do in the past like sell certain style rifles to Maryland residents. That's a big no-no because Maryland has a whole list of "banned" guns that their residents can't buy. I mean bad stuff like FFLs not aware of or not remembering to do the 3310 form when selling multiple handguns to the same buyer in 5 business days. That kind of stuff is what gets people's licenses pulled or at least not renewed.

I don't remember if it was here, SKSboards, or on HPFF that someone was complaining that their FFL didn't know what a Mosin was when they went in for an FFL transfer. Seriously, the business owner had no clue what it was.

The classic for me was when I bought a No4mk1 Lee Enfield and the tag had it labeled as a 30 caliber Mauser. That's what the guy put on 4473 too. Not my license...

A lot of dealers around here won't carry Hi Point, Jimenez, Cobra, or Phoenix because they don't want the traces. They claim that those are guns that attract a certain kind of buyer, the type that wants a cheap gun to commit a crime or they're buying it for someone who can't have a gun so that that guy can go out and commit a crime. One of the FFL dealers I work for at the gun shows said he sold a JA22 at the Richmond, VA gun show on Saturday and got a trace request when he got back to his shop on Monday. That sort of thing is what keeps some dealers from carrying inexpensive pistols, even if the markup percentage is pretty great. You can make $50 on a $100 investment. You could also go and make $50 on a Glock, but you paid $450 for that Glock and are selling it for $500. Less money tied up in the cheapies and the same dollar profit per unit. I can't find any SNS guns locally aside from the random Raven at a pawn shop, I have to go to the shows where FFLs from all over the state congregate.
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Re: Classic Arms -- HP22

Postby FoxTail » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:01 am

When I bought my HP22 the guy at my local gun store pretty much announced it to the store, "Here's you PHOENIX pistol!", loudly. Never had him do that before or since with any other gun. I don't know what his issue was that day. I had to order it, they didn't carry them. There are two guys who work there, one, I think he's the owner, is friendly and helpful and the other guy is not generally pleasant to customers unless you want an AR or AK or a Glock. It was the second guy. Every gun store around here seems to have one employee like that.
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