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Re: More back work

Postby jeffchance » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:44 am

Depends on your point of reference. I could lose 20 pounds and be better.
Quit smoking 6 months ago and was on pain pills 3 months before surgery so added a few then.
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Re: More back work

Postby David Vincent » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:50 pm

well I could give you all kinds of tips but its just a waste of time if your not motivated. Thats why I suggest walking...its easy (assuming ice has melted). The weight loss is a given because all that fat puts major stress not only on your core but everything below as well. Walking does some other things as well to stimulate healing.

I went through debilitating back issues for over 10 years in my late 20s to early thirties. Doctors wanted to cut me, told me I had such and such disease and conditions, give me drugs etc. I would get so bad I couldnt walk for four days at a time and be trapped in bed. Pure hell that I wouldnt wish on anyone.

Did some research on my own and have not had a back problem in 5 years. I run 4-8 miles three to four times a week now.

Careful with those "doctors".

You might look into Keto for an eating style. I experiments and lost 80lbs in 6 months with basically zero activity. I thought I needed to lose 40lbs LOL. You dont realize how much dead weight you have on you until you loose it. That took a lot of strain off my back and then I was able to start doing exercise.

the human body is an amazing thing. Problem is we develop habits and diets that screws around with its natural ability to heal itself.
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Re: More back work

Postby FergusonTO35 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:07 am

Glad to see you gave up the ciggies, Jeff. Quitting would be easy if they weren't so damn enjoyable!
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Re: More back work

Postby David Vincent » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:47 am

FergusonTO35 wrote:Glad to see you gave up the ciggies, Jeff. Quitting would be easy if they weren't so damn enjoyable!


LOL. Thats for sure. Ferg are you a smoker?
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Re: More back work

Postby FergusonTO35 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:27 pm

I guess you could say I'm a part time smoker. I'll have a couple on the way to work and at lunch each weekday. I don't smoke at home or on the weekends, nor do I smoke when I'm on vacation. I can go without smoking just fine, but I really do enjoy them. I turn 40 this year and I have decided I'm going to leave the cancer sticks behind for good no later than my birthday. Maybe once in a great while I'll have a good cigar but nothing else from that point forward. I used to drink alot of beer too, there was a point in my 20's when I was slamming at least a six pack a night every day. Nowadays, I can count on one hand the number of drinks with alcohol I consume in a years time. Drinking and smoking is fun but it catches up with you exponentially as you get older. Heart problems run in both sides of my family so I think 2018 would be a good year put smoking in the rear view as well.
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Re: More back work

Postby David Vincent » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:02 pm

FergusonTO35 wrote:I guess you could say I'm a part time smoker. I'll have a couple on the way to work and at lunch each weekday. I don't smoke at home or on the weekends, nor do I smoke when I'm on vacation. I can go without smoking just fine, but I really do enjoy them. I turn 40 this year and I have decided I'm going to leave the cancer sticks behind for good no later than my birthday. Maybe once in a great while I'll have a good cigar but nothing else from that point forward. I used to drink alot of beer too, there was a point in my 20's when I was slamming at least a six pack a night every day. Nowadays, I can count on one hand the number of drinks with alcohol I consume in a years time. Drinking and smoking is fun but it catches up with you exponentially as you get older. Heart problems run in both sides of my family so I think 2018 would be a good year put smoking in the rear view as well.


good luck. Dont get fat LOL. have you ever tried the vapor?
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Re: More back work

Postby FergusonTO35 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Dont get fat LOL.


Too late. :oops:

have you tried the vapor?


Not planning to. Without exception, every person I know who switched to vapor is even more hooked on that stuff than they were on real cigs. Sometimes I chew nicotine gum, when I give up cigs for good I'll probably use it for awhile as a crutch.
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Re: More back work

Postby David Vincent » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:30 pm

FergusonTO35 wrote:
Dont get fat LOL.


Too late. :oops:

have you tried the vapor?


Not planning to. Without exception, every person I know who switched to vapor is even more hooked on that stuff than they were on real cigs. Sometimes I chew nicotine gum, when I give up cigs for good I'll probably use it for awhile as a crutch.


yeah the vapor can be hard to give up but you can play around with nicotine levels to ween yourself off. Big benefit is you can go run/ exercise and it doesnt effect you. Best thing I ever did going to the vapor.
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Re: More back work

Postby FergusonTO35 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:50 pm

I don't doubt that it is less harmful. I guess you could say I just enjoy smoking, it's not just feeding a vice. I already smoke ultra light cigs so I'm not getting much nicotine anyhow. If anything, the gum is a lot stronger.
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Re: More back work

Postby jeffchance » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:23 pm

Went back to the VA on Friday and have been officially released :D :D
Just have to be smart in doing things so as not to injure any more stuff.
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