Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

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Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby jackj » Sat May 02, 2015 5:16 am

Ok, was reading an ad on Gunbroker and it said that the Jennings produced J-22 used aluminum for the frame and slide. It also said that the later Bryco model was Zamak. Are these statements fact or fiction?
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby adam01364 » Sat May 02, 2015 5:50 am

I've owned a wide range of serial numbers of Jennings J-22s and I have never encountered an aluminum framed Jennings (or Bryco for that matter) J-22.

That isn't to say that they couldn't exist; we know for a fact that Lorcin produced an aluminum framed .25 to as a counter to some state's melting point laws. Thus there is a Lorcin L25 and a Lorcin LT25, same gun different frame (the LT is aluminum).

Others on the board may have more information on the matter, just sharing what I know.
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby Kiln » Sat May 02, 2015 11:19 am

From what I've seen in person and online, it doesn't look like they produced an aluminum framed version. In fact the only place I've seen it claimed is on Wikipedia, which is not exactly a reliable source. I won't go so far as to say it is definitely a myth but in my opinion it is probably not correct.

Even the earliest versions I've seen are zamak. It is probably just some "expert" spouting crap he has no idea about, like people claiming Raven, Davis, and Lorcin were the same company. The reality is that the three were extremely competitive rival companies.
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby Flowmaster » Mon May 04, 2015 8:18 pm

I've never seen an aluminum J22 and believe me I've seen a ton of them helping out at gun shows over the years. They might exist, but lets put it this way. If no one on this forum has ever seen one, they might not exist. We still could be surprised.
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby pockets » Tue May 05, 2015 4:01 am

Never seen nor read of an aluminum frame J22.
The Bryco catalog I have says some of the new models have polymer frames....but doesn't actually show any such animal. Unless you consider the polymer stock of the Bryco Junior rifle to be a 'polymer' frame? Bruce Lee Jennings would have said anything at that point to promote the company.
Same catalog has the T-22 on the cover and as a full page spread (It is listed as both a J-22 and a T-22 on various pages...who knows?) ... It's just an artist's drawing, with no ejection port, of a gun never produced. Unlikely to be the aluminum Jennings unicorn.

As mentioned, Lorcin did produce the LT.25 .... and in 1997 they listed the L9mm as having an aluminum frame. Has anyone seen an L9mm?

Interesting stuff.

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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby farmkid » Tue May 05, 2015 5:05 pm

I agree with the other observations: Possible? Yes. Probable? Hmmm... Less so, but who knows.

That's for the frame, however. I think that we can _confidently_ believe that aluminum was _never_ used for the slide; in an application where density matters in a blow-back design, aluminum's is less than half that of zamak's.
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby pockets » Wed May 06, 2015 5:10 am

OOPS! I suppose we should remember that the first 'A' in ZAMAK stands for Aluminum (or aluminium if you are not in the USA).

So technically speaking, the J-22's frame and slide ARE about 4% aluminum. :)

Of course, they are also probably about .058% rat droppings as well. Not sure what the allowable max percentage of rat droppings is for ZAMAK casting.

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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby adam01364 » Wed May 06, 2015 7:14 am

You SURE about rat droppings? I figured they'd be droppings from smaller members of the muroid family.

The J-22 being a mouse gun and all.

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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby 84minieldo » Wed May 06, 2015 7:25 pm

U know I once read about a batch of j22s being made completely of rodent droppings,they got a bad reputation tho because everyone said they were crappy
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Re: Jennings J-22 Myth or Fact?

Postby David Vincent » Wed May 13, 2015 9:43 pm

I have a NIB j22 that was one of the first 150 produced and its all zamak.

This is kind of like when people claim chrome or nickel zamak to be stainless steel. The only manufacturer I can recall with actual aluminum is Lorcin and early hipoints.
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