Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

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Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby adam01364 » Fri May 29, 2015 8:20 pm

I won myself another Spanish Ruby pistol on Gunbroker. The seller posted minimal pictures, but in the description he said it had "French Military Markings".
The auction was a bit weird, at first it had a "Buy It Now" and then suddenly the option to BIN went away. I wasn't sure what was going on with the auction, but if the gun had all the correct marks, I didn't want to tip the seller off.

The Spanish "Ruby" pistols made for the French Army typically had a one- or two-letter mark in an oval on the rear left of the frame. The letters identified the manufacturer. Additionally the pistols were supposed to be marked with a star or pair of stars on the bottom of the frame alongside the magazine well when they were formally accepted for French service. Not all of them got the star marks - wartime urgency sometimes meant this step was bypassed, but when you see a star, it means good things.

Like I said, I didn't want to alert the seller as to the gun's potential, so instead I expanded the photos as best as I could, and noted a few things: First, the pistol was a Garate, Anitua y Cia and it had the correct manufacturer's mark (GN) on the left side of the strap. A check of a list of approved Spanish Ruby suppliers to the French military showed that Garate, Anitua was a second tier supplier. So far, so good. Then I looked at the safety, and noticed it was marked in French (Feu for Fire). Definitely destined for France. IMO the gun was worth taking a chance on; I bid fairly low on it; if I won and my hunches were right, the gun would be a steal.

Today I picked it up at my FFL, took one look at it, and did the happy dance. Not only did the gun have all the right marks, it had an original magazine with the correct "GN" marking on it. The slide was original to the gun, but unfortunately the barrel was not. (Spanish Rubys do NOT interchange parts nicely.) However, everything fits properly and functions as it should. And I have to saw this gun feels a LOT more robust than my other Spanish Rubys. :D

This is the picture from the auction. You can make out the "GN" on the strap and the "Feu" at the safety.
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This is a composite of the pistol I bought.
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby Kiln » Fri May 29, 2015 8:39 pm

I heard that the French model was bought from Spain because it's compact size and low weight could potentially make it easier for French troops to retreat when they are engaged.

In all seriousness though, I like the Ruby pistols. How much would it have cost if the seller knew it's real value?
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby jeffchance » Fri May 29, 2015 8:58 pm

Very nice addition. Sometimes it's best to keep quiet. (until you have secured it)
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby adam01364 » Fri May 29, 2015 9:23 pm

Kiln wrote:How much would it have cost if the seller knew it's real value?
Oh well, Rubys are still Eibar pistols. :lol: I probably saved myself about $100-$125 by keeping my mouth shut. One of these went on GunAuction.com for $275 in early 2012 and IMO it isn't as nice as this one. http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10832517

A Spanish Ruby with French acceptance markings has been on my want list for a while now. The problem was I didn't want to spend a lot of money for it. :roll:

I just tore the pistol down to look at the internals, and it appears that the number on the barrel is original to the gun. The number on the barrel corresponds to a separate 3-digit number that is on the frame beneath the grips, and the same number is stamped internally on the slide, the trigger, and a number of other components as well. Makes me feel a whole lot better! :D
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby Admin » Sat May 30, 2015 4:38 am

How many rounds does she hold?
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby adam01364 » Sat May 30, 2015 5:19 am

Admin: Nine rounds.

Later on I'm going to pull out the scale and take some comparison weights of the three Rubys. This one feels a LOT heavier than the other two I've got.
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby ampersand » Sat May 30, 2015 9:46 am

Neat pistols and pretty common, so it's easy to find. Congratulations and be sure to let us know how it shoots.
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby Flowmaster » Sat May 30, 2015 8:27 pm

The grip angle and the length of the grip (compared to the slide) makes the Ruby 32s look really goofy. I've personally seen two Rubys that had literally shot out barrels. You could put a round in it and the round would go way too far into the barrel. One was my friend's gun. He thought he was just getting light strikes and needed a longer firing pin. Well we made a firing pin and put it in the gun but it was still not igniting reliably. The issue turned out to be the throat of the barrel being completely shot out, so bad that a loaded round would easily get wedged into the rifling far past the original chamber cut.

The metallurgy of some Ruby pistols may not have been spot-on. What I'm really trying to say is that I'm not at all surprised that someone replaced the barrel on yours because the barrels can have issues.
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby Admin » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:20 am

It's crazy how many pistols the French where going through.
I guess if I was forced to carry a Chauchat I would want a hi-cap pistol.
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Re: Spanish Ruby - with French Military Acceptance markings

Postby adam01364 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:57 am

Anything but a Chauchat!
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