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.45 Mag

Postby Stik » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:36 pm

Looks like there's a new hi-cap mag for the .45 ACP. No big deal right? Well this one looks to have double to single stack design. IIRC correctly the double stack Makarov was of a similar design and it didn't work very well. I wonder how this will work for the HP?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/03/14/redball-sports-45-acp-20-round-magazine-for-hi-point-4595ts-carbines
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby David Vincent » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:00 am

they can work if done correctly but its a very complicated system. Neat that someone is giving it a shot. Lamma Omni was another gun that used this method in 9mm. Promag has also done this with 40s&w in some of their mags. The biggest hurdle is designing a follower and spring system that works to funnel the rounds through the bottleneck shoulder area of the mag and keep enough stability that the follower remains stable when fully loaded. The makarov hicaps used a two tier follower and double spring system which actually works pretty well but nowhere near that of the original single stack mak mags.

I would say it overcomplicates things too much IMO. The entire setup is going to be very sensitive to spring wear, follower wear, and ammo sellection resulting in a nightmare to keep tollerances exact in manufacturing. Since the magazine is one of the main aspects of pistol overall functioning It is kind if a dicey proposition. Due to the facts that hipoints have such loose tolerances it my not be too bad though.

I am glad to see someone giving it a shot though. Might have to pick up one of the newer hipoints to play with. Strange that all my hipoints are older versions. I was holding out for a 10mm pistol but all these new mag options have me contemplating a 45acp.
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby Stik » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:37 pm

I was thinking that I may have to try one (or four). I have a couple of 14/15 round 1911 mags that work reasonably well in the HP, but I suppose 20 is better than 15. I'd like to see someone else try them first.
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby adam01364 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:10 pm

I'm with you, let someone else be the guinea pig.
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby Stik » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:19 am

I couldn't resist any longer.

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Re: .45 Mag

Postby adam01364 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:22 pm

...and how's it work in the pistol?
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby Stik » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:21 pm

I haven't had a chance to take it to the range yet. Planning to this week.
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby Stik » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:34 pm

I ran a box of 50 through it today and it ran flawlessly. It's still a bit difficult to load, but I'm hoping that loosens up with time. A HP with 20 rounds of .45 ACP is a seriously heavy piece-- I think that may be the heaviest pistol I've ever held. It was fun though.

For some strange reason I enjoy looking over at the target of the guy in the lane next to me and seeing that I'm grouping better with my HP than he is with his Glock.
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby adam01364 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:30 pm

Well, you DO have a lot more to hang onto now... :lol:
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Re: .45 Mag

Postby David Vincent » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:05 pm

Stik wrote:I ran a box of 50 through it today and it ran flawlessly. It's still a bit difficult to load, but I'm hoping that loosens up with time. A HP with 20 rounds of .45 ACP is a seriously heavy piece-- I think that may be the heaviest pistol I've ever held. It was fun though.

For some strange reason I enjoy looking over at the target of the guy in the lane next to me and seeing that I'm grouping better with my HP than he is with his Glock.


problem is your comparing them to more conventional guns when you really need to compare hipoints to something more like a SWD closed bolt semi auto. They give you innexpensive raw firepower in a very affordable package that both accurate and durable along with being easy to work on.
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