Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

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Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby adam01364 » Thu May 17, 2018 7:41 pm

A few days ago I came across a Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190) with a broken cocking handle. Other than the broken handle, the gun was in remarkably good condition - bordering on excellent; the internals needed a good cleaning, but the stock was in VERY nice shape and there's not a bit of surface rust on the barrel or magazine tube. After a little bit of back & forth, I got it for $100 out the door. I stopped at the range on the way home and it rang the metal gong at 50 feet.

Truth be told, the Winchester 190 is arguably the worst Winchester out there; it was Winchester's cheap, bottom of the barrel, mass produced pot metal gun. (Yay! another Zamak wunder-gun!) Reportedly, it' a decent rifle, but not up to the standard set by Winchester in their previous gen guns. And this gun is a Sears branded version... the gun will never be a collectible. I've got a replacement cocking handle coming next week, but in the meantime I cobbled a repair with a 40S&W shell casing and some JB Weld. I think it's going to be a real fun little plinker.

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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby jeffchance » Thu May 17, 2018 11:10 pm

Congrats on the new shooter.
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby Flowmaster » Fri May 18, 2018 7:05 am

That gun just looks so 70s to me. Its the styling or something.
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby adam01364 » Fri May 18, 2018 7:51 am

I like the looks of stuff in the 1960's. The guns, the cars, the girls... :D

Here's a pic of the temporary repair to the charging handle. Works great, just looks a bit... odd.

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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby FergusonTO35 » Fri May 18, 2018 10:42 am

Sweet. Yep, totally 60's-70's complete with louvered bolt. I have an old magazine ad for these which proclaims that "Winchester still thinks .22's are real rifles" and pointedly explains how the 190 and it's lever action counterpart (not the 9422) are proof of this fact. Along with the ads proclaiming the push feed model 70 to be the best one they had ever made, this is prima facie evidence that Winchester was butthurt by all the complaining.
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby adam01364 » Fri May 18, 2018 3:20 pm

FergusonTO35 wrote:Sweet. Yep, totally 60's-70's complete with louvered bolt.
Reminds me of a Ford Flex. :lol:

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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby FergusonTO35 » Mon May 21, 2018 9:39 am

Yeah, or various sporty cars of the 70's and 80's with rear windshield louvers.
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby Papa G » Mon May 21, 2018 1:38 pm

FergusonTO35 wrote:Sweet. Yep, totally 60's-70's complete with louvered bolt. I have an old magazine ad for these which proclaims that "Winchester still thinks .22's are real rifles" and pointedly explains how the 190 and it's lever action counterpart (not the 9422) are proof of this fact. Along with the ads proclaiming the push feed model 70 to be the best one they had ever made, this is prima facie evidence that Winchester was butthurt by all the complaining.

Why was Winchester butt hurt by all the complaining? I cannot recall any problems with them.
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby FergusonTO35 » Tue May 22, 2018 8:10 am

In 1964, they revamped their production line and also made changes to designs and materials to make guns cheaper to manufacture. This led to increased tolerances and more defects slipping through. The most famous change was redesigning the model 70 to a push feed bolt with integral extractor and ejector, instead of the more expensive Mauser controlled round feed design with external extractor and ejector. The 94 was redesigned to use more stamped metal parts and for a few years the alloy of the receiver was changed and bluing would fade off quickly. New guns which were designed to be cheaper to produce such as the 1200, 1300, and 190 came to replace older, more expensive products. In other words, what Remington has been doing since the Freedom Group vultures took over!
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Re: Sears Model 3T (aka Winchester 190)

Postby Papa G » Tue May 22, 2018 11:47 am

Thanks Fergusion!!! I did not like the changes made to Winchesters. I had no means of following anything in 1964!!! :(

But I hate that those who took over good companies and made changes to good products! :x :x
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